Spray painting a vintage amp
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Spray painting a vintage amp
Picked up a vintage amp and thinking of having it spray painted to restore it to former glory.
Should I DIY? and if so, can anybody provide tips on how to do a good job (an even coat, no streaking, lumps), any particular type of paint etc.
Alternatively, is there someone who can do a good job and at a reasonable price?
Thanks.
Should I DIY? and if so, can anybody provide tips on how to do a good job (an even coat, no streaking, lumps), any particular type of paint etc.
Alternatively, is there someone who can do a good job and at a reasonable price?
Thanks.
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Re: Spray painting a vintage amp
Strip everything, DIY use acid paint remover to strip old paint (very carefully done as its corrosive), wash down, oil it to prevent rust, then send to car spray paint shop and tell them to spray as if its new car body panel, multicoats of primer, color and top coat. Yes, it may cost some $$ but well worth it if you're going to keep your amp. No other suggestion going on the cheap. DIY spray can from hardware shop (Rm6?) will NOT last. trust me!. Done this b4. Tough DIY job and tedious work. Unless you've spray paint skills with air compressor and 2k spray gun. Don't DIY..hazardous!
Note: there's thousands of spray paint shops around Klang valley, take your pick. It depends on how busy they are and whether they can accomodate your small job. Its up to your negotiation skills on price and your expectations. Good luck!
Note: there's thousands of spray paint shops around Klang valley, take your pick. It depends on how busy they are and whether they can accomodate your small job. Its up to your negotiation skills on price and your expectations. Good luck!
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Re: Spray painting a vintage amp
Hi cmboy,
Thanks. Got someone who may just be able to do the spray.......a body works shop.
Ok let me take a look at the amp tonight to see whether I can get past the first stage of taking her apart. Will drop you a line if I need further clarification/ input.
rgs
Thanks. Got someone who may just be able to do the spray.......a body works shop.
Ok let me take a look at the amp tonight to see whether I can get past the first stage of taking her apart. Will drop you a line if I need further clarification/ input.
rgs
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Yes, automotive bodyworks shop are equipped to deal with spray painting. Ive done DIY spray painting on other things like refurbishing furniture or other items, done on some amp chassis too, but I don't like doing this as its hazardous, depending on the weather and hopefully dust free. One speck of dust can ruin the painting.
Systematically dismantling an amp and assembling back is also another tedious chore and I hope you know what you're doing. Take pics of each step if you're not sure and keep fasteners and tid bits systematically in container/s. Strip EVERYTHING where possible to enable complete paint job.
The next depends on how well the painter does the job. Its time consuming.
Oh well.. good luck!
Systematically dismantling an amp and assembling back is also another tedious chore and I hope you know what you're doing. Take pics of each step if you're not sure and keep fasteners and tid bits systematically in container/s. Strip EVERYTHING where possible to enable complete paint job.
The next depends on how well the painter does the job. Its time consuming.
Oh well.. good luck!
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Ok!.... was it Mark Twain who said" whenever I have the urge to exercise....i sit back until the urge goes away" perhaps not in those exact word but close enough.
Need to clean the insides anyway so will remove the top cover tonight and have a look see. Decide then whether I am up to the task.
Thanks.
Need to clean the insides anyway so will remove the top cover tonight and have a look see. Decide then whether I am up to the task.
Thanks.
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Hi guys. This is just my opinion (i manufacture aluminium furniture for a living).
Firstly - it depends on whether the current amp facade has been spray coated or is anodized. Anodized = electrolysis process to get color to permanently stick.
I believe many casings in hifi equip are aluminium & are anodized instead of spray painted - so please do check!! An anodized casing cannot be peeled off when it is scratched (unlike spray painting/epoxy coating).
If it is anodized, i would recommend sanding the whole thing down (dont worry if all the old color doesnt come off) and getting it powder coated (80% of a successful paint job is down to the preperation).
Powder coating is quite simple and very affordable. For black it will cost you in the region of about RM10-00 and will only take about an hour (coating + oven baking) to have it done. I would suggest going with a matte finish.
Hope this helps.
Firstly - it depends on whether the current amp facade has been spray coated or is anodized. Anodized = electrolysis process to get color to permanently stick.
I believe many casings in hifi equip are aluminium & are anodized instead of spray painted - so please do check!! An anodized casing cannot be peeled off when it is scratched (unlike spray painting/epoxy coating).
If it is anodized, i would recommend sanding the whole thing down (dont worry if all the old color doesnt come off) and getting it powder coated (80% of a successful paint job is down to the preperation).
Powder coating is quite simple and very affordable. For black it will cost you in the region of about RM10-00 and will only take about an hour (coating + oven baking) to have it done. I would suggest going with a matte finish.
Hope this helps.
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I'm assuming poster picked up really vintage tube amp and I've not seen old vintage tube amps thats with powder coated finish. Powder coating is rugged, practical, durable, almost scratchproof but it stops there. In short, power coating is crude, economical and durable industrial finish but doesn't contribute to finesse or first class finish looks. I still prefer a good automotive finish to match the original color of a vintage amplifier. To its former glory, he said?.
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Powder coating is not crude as you believe. As i have suggested - preperation is the key, same as with spray painting. Cut corners here and the end result will be flakey, uneven and unrefined. In short - shoddy
Dupont, Kossan, Jotun (and a host of other brands) have a wide selection of colors and various finishes. Matte black would probably work best with a vintage amp as opposed to gloss IMO.
BITE - you may also consider a "hammertone" finish for a truly antique look
Cheers
Dupont, Kossan, Jotun (and a host of other brands) have a wide selection of colors and various finishes. Matte black would probably work best with a vintage amp as opposed to gloss IMO.
BITE - you may also consider a "hammertone" finish for a truly antique look
Cheers
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Re: Spray painting a vintage amp
my friend just resprayed his amp
sent to car sprayer
metallic black 2k paint
looks very beautiful
sent to car sprayer
metallic black 2k paint
looks very beautiful
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Its entirely a personal preference what an owner intends as to the kind of finish. Painted with whatever, it does NOTHING to contribute to better sound quality. Its merely restoration or beautification process. Anyway, whatever the route for vintage stuff, take the opportunity to renew any old electronic parts , wiring or accessories if they're dodgy or unsafe for another long lifespan.
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I was hoping to DIY the spray paint job and looking for a way to get a good finish without having to take the amp apart (must admit, didnt quite cross my mind). The Sansui AU222 albeit a vintage doesnt warrant inordinate expenditure.
The bodyworks shop wants RM500 for a two coat job while powder coating RM1000. Reckons thats a bit rich for the triple 2 and the issue with removing the innards and getting it all back into place correctly. The amp is working fine and not worth the risk.
Another option available to me is to fabricate solid timber panels for the sides and top for a fraction of the cost with quality nyatoh or yellow merbau. Looking into the ventilation aspect and whether the bottom plate/chassis and rear can be removed as a whole. Believe it can be done. A worthwhile exercise pending the triple one. Not an original restoration but she will look just as good.
Thanks all the same for your feedback. Much appreciated.
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The bodyworks shop wants RM500 for a two coat job while powder coating RM1000. Reckons thats a bit rich for the triple 2 and the issue with removing the innards and getting it all back into place correctly. The amp is working fine and not worth the risk.
Another option available to me is to fabricate solid timber panels for the sides and top for a fraction of the cost with quality nyatoh or yellow merbau. Looking into the ventilation aspect and whether the bottom plate/chassis and rear can be removed as a whole. Believe it can be done. A worthwhile exercise pending the triple one. Not an original restoration but she will look just as good.
Thanks all the same for your feedback. Much appreciated.
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Hi Bite,
The quote you get certainly is not cheap and not worth it especially if the cost of paint job is higher than the Sansui amp itself. On your plan to fabricate wood panels for the top and sides, you might want to reconsider that option as modification of this nature would affect the resale value of the amp although I am not sure how you would do it. You are correct that ventilation may be a problem especially if the amp has ventilation holes on the existing panels.
Maybe you would want to get a few more quotes from other bodyworks shop for comparison purposes to get a cheaper rate. If you are going for solid wood panels and prefer a high-gloss kind of finish like the grand piano, a piano restoration shop may be able to give you that but then again the cost may come out to be a bomb which will eventually render the whole process not viable. In the end you might want to leave the amp as it is.
Good luck.
The quote you get certainly is not cheap and not worth it especially if the cost of paint job is higher than the Sansui amp itself. On your plan to fabricate wood panels for the top and sides, you might want to reconsider that option as modification of this nature would affect the resale value of the amp although I am not sure how you would do it. You are correct that ventilation may be a problem especially if the amp has ventilation holes on the existing panels.
Maybe you would want to get a few more quotes from other bodyworks shop for comparison purposes to get a cheaper rate. If you are going for solid wood panels and prefer a high-gloss kind of finish like the grand piano, a piano restoration shop may be able to give you that but then again the cost may come out to be a bomb which will eventually render the whole process not viable. In the end you might want to leave the amp as it is.
Good luck.
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Bite - are you looking at refurbishing the inner chasis as well or just the facade ?
If just the facade - have a pro open her up and send it to me. I will get it polished and epoxy coated in any color you like, except pink. Your cost = Just buy me a couple of beers after its done.
PM me if you are up for it.
If just the facade - have a pro open her up and send it to me. I will get it polished and epoxy coated in any color you like, except pink. Your cost = Just buy me a couple of beers after its done.
PM me if you are up for it.
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