Re: JumPan2 preamp by Wabun

by bimmerman Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:16 am

bassraptor wrote:i wish i understood all of that. especially the mousqito bit ...

What he meant to say was: JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_exclaim

Wallap

JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Affraid

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You geddit now? JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_razz

by **bassraptor** Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:00 am

no, but love your choice of emoticon translations. trying to translate them to tamil ... JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_biggrin

by mugenfoo Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:13 am

onne rende mune nalle anji ......

by zeebee Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:16 am

bassraptor wrote:no, but love your choice of emoticon translations. trying to translate them to tamil ...

By the way bro, you didn't get to hear the audit of the Jumpan for 2nd opinion apart from the co-writer ??...

by **bassraptor** Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:40 am

No, I didn't, I have enough other work as it is, additionally, I run my source, pre and power in balanced mode, so felt I may not be able to assess it in the proper context.

Lau contacted me a year ago about his product and lest anyone has any doubts about this - we never turn down local manufacturers if they are willing to send their products for review, we've taken stuff in regularly over the years. No biases or prejudices, unlike some mags that say you must have X number of dealers or stuff like that ... if you don't see the products reviewed by us, well, then the manufacturer isn't passing them on for review.

In this case, I passed the work on to Lim Juan because he gets all excited about value-for-money products, local or otherwise, and he certainly uses local stuff too.

Incidentally, Lau himself has taken the comments in review in good spirit, which means he knows he has a good product and needs to work on the packaging. It was fair comment, perhaps with some flavour.

This has been my stand, for reviews or otherwise.
If you want an opinion, be prepared for what you will hear.
If you give an opinion, be prepared for any reaction.

It has kept me going for two decades.

As for Lau's product, well, he has created a buzz, so that's a big step for him from a year ago.

by zeebee Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:55 am

bassraptor wrote:

This has been my stand, for reviews or otherwise.
If you want an opinion, be prepared for what you will hear.
If you give an opinion, be prepared for any reaction.

It has kept me going for two decades.

As for Lau's product, well, he has created a buzz, so that's a big step for him from a year ago.

Well put my friend... and hoping to hear a lot from you.. and wabun.

Cheers,

zb cheers

by bimmerman Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:17 pm

mugenfoo wrote:onne rende mune nalle anji ......

Tambi, yarna ke puri il-leh.

by hazy Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:22 pm

seji , luro , kelo , papat

by tycham Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:32 pm

வாட் ஆர் ஆல் ஒப் யு தல்கிங் அபௌட்?

by bimmerman Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:34 pm

hazy wrote:seji , luro , kelo , papat

Huh?

Antah apa anu Hazy sakap to bah? Enda bisa ko paham. Bah singarung tapai kaamatan ko, avasi montok diau bah. JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_cheers

by jazzy939 Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:37 pm

by **htkaki** Wed Jan 13, 2010 5:59 pm

tycham wrote:வாட் ஆர் ஆல் ஒப் யு தல்கிங் அபௌட்?

Apo ni?

It is always good to have some locals building hi-fi stuffs. There is another one uncle in Batu Caves that are into DIY too. IIRC, he is Mr Tham

by drskumar Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:54 pm

bimmerman wrote:I read the review again for the 3rd time today and perhaps the Jumpan2 is not that bad afterall. If the Jumpan2 picks up clicks and pops from light switches and fan regulators then how about considering a good AC Power conditioner? I'm sure it would help.

Had JumPan2 for almost 2 weeks now. So far I've not faced such problems. Mine just plugged directly to the wall socket. I just leave it on 24 hours.

by azri Wed Jan 13, 2010 6:58 pm

at least now i know in hifi4sale who is malay, chinese, indian & chindian perhaps??

by bimmerman Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:22 pm

azri wrote:at least now i know in hifi4sale who is malay, chinese, indian & chindian perhaps??

and then when you finally meet up with them one day, you're surprised again at how wrong your assumptions were. perhaps to be truely malaysian we have to be a little malay, chinese, indian, kadazan dan lain lain...

by bimmerman Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:29 pm

When I met up with Mugenfoo the other day I was totally surprised that he was half chinese half punjabi and spoke fluent hindi, tamil, hainanese and hokkien. He could not speak cantonese though.

He was equally surprised that I was half german mixed with lain-lain.

by bimmerman Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:31 pm

Ok break times over, back to Wabun's Jumpan2...

by mugenfoo Wed Jan 13, 2010 7:52 pm

ok .. back to Jumban2,

Fellow forummers in this thread who have bought the pre-amp:
1) 123_rocketman
2) Drskumar
3) ...
4) ... (who else?)
5) ... (cmon , support your local hifi designer!)
6) ... (add here)

by 123_rocketman Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:14 pm

mugenfoo wrote:ok .. back to Jumban2,

Fellow forummers in this thread who have bought the pre-amp:
1) 123_rocketman
2) Drskumar
3) ...
4) ... (who else?)
5) ... (cmon , support your local hifi designer!) (MugenFoo????)
6) ... (add here)

by azri Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:36 pm

ok meh. as long as not half gandalf & half naked!!

by cheelun Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:08 pm

Frankly speaking, I thought the STAR review were very well written. Describing an apple as it is. Just points out the areas that need to be improved.

However, a kinda personal from some of the forummers (or rather forummer) here is rather uncalled for (even with their previous 'spicy' history).

Being obnoxious simply by being able to own more expensive equipment and resorting to name calling is just not the M'sian way.

by jazzy939 Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:14 pm

Whatelse is new, cheelun! JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_razz

by hazy Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:25 pm

bimmerman wrote:
hazy wrote:seji , luro , kelo , papat

Huh?

Antah apa anu Hazy sakap to bah? Enda bisa ko paham. Bah singarung tapai kaamatan ko, avasi montok diau bah.

enda bisa paham bah . Jawa bah kalau nak jawa halus boleh aje .
nnti semuanya binggung mereng. Razz

by bimmerman Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:18 am

enda bisa ngerti? bingung mereng puterrr puterr puterr dangdut! JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Drunken_smilie

by tycham Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:26 am

azri wrote:at least now i know in hifi4sale who is malay, chinese, indian & chindian perhaps??

Bahasa jiwa bangsa.

by jazzy939 Thu Jan 14, 2010 8:33 am

Enough already.
Can we get back to the topic?
TQ.

by tycham Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:18 am

Singapore got agent for Jumpan2?

by 123_rocketman Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:15 am

cheelun wrote: However, a kinda personal from some of the forummers (or rather forummer) here is rather uncalled for (even with their previous 'spicy' history).

Being obnoxious simply by being able to own more expensive equipment and resorting to name calling is just not the M'sian way.

Well said.

by mugenfoo Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:44 am

123_rocketman wrote:
mugenfoo wrote:ok .. back to Jumban2,

Fellow forummers in this thread who have bought the pre-amp:
1) 123_rocketman
2) Drskumar
3) ...
4) ... (who else?)
5) ... (cmon , support your local hifi designer!) (MugenFoo????)
6) ... (add here)

Nope, not going to spend my money on what i think is junk.

But not that what I think would matter to you anyway.

so go ahead, enjoy your brand spanking new jumban2. JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_biggrin

by jazzy939 Thu Jan 14, 2010 11:47 am

I am giving it a pass, not that I am not supporting local products. I am making my own tube pre-amp. Wink

by bimmerman Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:38 pm

Have not heard from Wabun since the review but i'm sure he's busy working on the reported flaws. I'm pretty sure this is not the last we'll hear of the Jumpan and he'll soon bounce back with an upgraded product to impress us. Hang in there Wabun!

by jcwlow Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:17 pm

For all you know, he's probably busy trying to cope with all the orders since the review!

by hughesths Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:56 pm

Perhaps some deliberate attacks have upset him, lazy to feedback. Pls show some respect, at least he designs, far better than us.

by wingman Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:18 pm

Hi All...

Let's stop this "Mud Slinging" and go back to to what has brought us together. ( HiFi = Hardware + Software )

cheers

by hangleng Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:26 pm

Wabun, it is a good start, everybody is talking about your product and you are now superstar in this forum. Keep up the good job, I fully support you.

Cheers..

by mugenfoo Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:10 am

hangleng wrote:Wabun, it is a good start, everybody is talking about your product and you are now superstar in this forum. Keep up the good job, I fully support you.

Cheers..

Good good ...
Placing your order just yet + adding your name to the list?

by zeebee Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:34 am

wingman wrote:Hi All...

Let's stop this "Mud Slinging" and go back to to what has brought us together. ( HiFi = Hardware + Software )

cheers

Read this article before, perhaps should share this will all you here:

http://www.chesky.com/core/body_librarydetails.cfm?newsid=160

I am a fan of Chesky Records, simple, honest and straightforward recording for some of the music that I enjoy...

Cheers,
cheers

zb

by hangleng Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:01 am

Order yet to come but moral support at the moment. Cheers Ipoh Mali !!

by jazzy939 Fri Jan 15, 2010 10:06 am

Whats the connection here? JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_question

zeebee wrote:
wingman wrote:Hi All...

Let's stop this "Mud Slinging" and go back to to what has brought us together. ( HiFi = Hardware + Software )

cheers

Read this article before, perhaps should share this will all you here:

http://www.chesky.com/core/body_librarydetails.cfm?newsid=160

I am a fan of Chesky Records, simple, honest and straightforward recording for some of the music that I enjoy...

Cheers,

zb

by zeebee Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:30 am

jazzy939 wrote:Whats the connection here?

zeebee wrote:
wingman wrote:Hi All...

Let's stop this "Mud Slinging" and go back to to what has brought us together. ( HiFi = Hardware + Software )

cheers

Read this article before, perhaps should share this will all you here:

http://www.chesky.com/core/body_librarydetails.cfm?newsid=160

I am a fan of Chesky Records, simple, honest and straightforward recording for some of the music that I enjoy...

Cheers,

zb

If you read the article, it's about music and 'hardware + software'. Also the last few para mentioned about all brands and people behind them, D'Agostino, Saul Marantz, Hiroyashi Kondo... and maybe wabun and mugen foo too. I find mugen's comments very passionate, maybe not to everyone's taste, but intelligent and very knowledgeable (see his other posts) and I personally find interesting. And Wabun, maybe the next Dennis had or messrs Conrad Johnson.. Maybe the part about Chesky somehow off the tangent.. Read the article bro.. hope u can get connected

Cheers, Very Happy

zb

by mugenfoo Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:03 pm

zeebee wrote:
wingman wrote:Hi All...

Let's stop this "Mud Slinging" and go back to to what has brought us together. ( HiFi = Hardware + Software )

cheers

Read this article before, perhaps should share this will all you here:

http://www.chesky.com/core/body_librarydetails.cfm?newsid=160

I am a fan of Chesky Records, simple, honest and straightforward recording for some of the music that I enjoy...

Cheers,

zb

Wah ... then my David Chesky's Club Del Sol CD album, autographed by David himself personally must be worth alot of money already...

by jazzy939 Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:04 pm

Its the JumPan2 preamp specific thread.. Then the deviation from emoticons to javanese language.. Then all of a sudden, Chesky Records? Thats why I asked, whats the connection to Chesky records! I though I missed something..
You're a fan, so's millions of other so called fans, big deal! What's the connection?Got it?

But I got it now.. just another random deviation/off topic thingy..

by luxman Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:25 pm

I can see quite a number of supporters for this Wabun's preamp. As for me, this is really a poor 'half hearted' effort in producing an amp whether local or not! Such poor build quality will never get my vote even if it sounded good occasionally.
Btw, this is not the first amp he produced....why the flimsiness now? I believe the 'milo tin' build is not an exaggeration, not to mention the other negative comments. Just hope he put more passion in designing and producing his next project.

Mugen,
Don't put me in that list pls..........Hey, want to do a direct preamp test your Krell vs my Lux? Just kidding!

by mugenfoo Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:31 pm

jazzy939 wrote:Its the JumPan2 preamp specific thread.. Then the deviation from emoticons to javanese language.. Then all of a sudden, Chesky Records? Thats why I asked, whats the connection to Chesky records! I though I missed something..
You're a fan, so's millions of other so called fans, big deal! What's the connection?Got it?

But I got it now.. just another random deviation/off topic thingy..

I had a cup of milo for breakfast today too.... after i finished the whole cup, it somewhat changed my opinion of the Jumban2 ....

There, now the cup of milo is related to this thread already! Happy ?

by hughesths Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:20 pm

luxman wrote:I can see quite a number of supporters for this Wabun's preamp. As for me, this is really a poor 'half hearted' effort in producing an amp whether local or not! Such poor build quality will never get my vote even if it sounded good occasionally.
Btw, this is not the first amp he produced....why the flimsiness now? I believe the 'milo tin' build is not an exaggeration, not to mention the other negative comments. Just hope he put more passion in designing and producing his next project.

Mugen,
Don't put me in that list pls..........Hey, want to do a direct preamp test your Krell vs my Lux? Just kidding!

Perhaps Wabun only had " Never judge the book by it's cover" in mind prior to designing the Pre amp and mistakenly overlooked the importance of the solid pre amp chassis to the sound quality.

by hughesths Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:48 pm

Very much looking forward to the "much better than JumPan2" Pre Amp "designed and manufactured" by some of the know-everthing hifi masters of Hifi4sale forumers who snort JumPan2.
Hopefully these newly designed " much better than JumPan2" Pre amps will be awarded triple A by Stereophile magazine and make us proud.

by zeebee Fri Jan 15, 2010 2:35 pm

mugenfoo wrote:
jazzy939 wrote:Its the JumPan2 preamp specific thread.. Then the deviation from emoticons to javanese language.. Then all of a sudden, Chesky Records? Thats why I asked, whats the connection to Chesky records! I though I missed something..
You're a fan, so's millions of other so called fans, big deal! What's the connection?Got it?

But I got it now.. just another random deviation/off topic thingy..

I had a cup of milo for breakfast today too.... after i finished the whole cup, it somewhat changed my opinion of the Jumban2 ....

There, now the cup of milo is related to this thread already! Happy ?

... hey ... this one really made my day.. lol!

by Razz Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:40 pm

htkaki wrote:
tycham wrote:வாட் ஆர் ஆல் ஒப் யு தல்கிங் அபௌட்?
Apo ni?

It is always good to have some locals building hi-fi stuffs. There is another one uncle in Batu Caves that are into DIY too. IIRC, he is Mr Tham

htkaki

can you tell me where to find this Mr Tham..? Any contacts/blogs..?

by wabun Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:05 pm

Thanks everyone for your commen, suggestion, critics and your time for this JumPan. I appreciate your input and some of you are really creative in using words JumPan2 preamp by Wabun - Page 3 Icon_wink

you should see improvement in my next product soon. The Star editor has did a very good job in review the JumPan2, he has very sharp observation and good ear. Local product should not ask for any special treatment like what our nation car did. user should see local vs imported gear equally and should have same expectation especially in sound too. beside built quality, the JumPan2 is capable to compete with imported gear 2 - 4 times higher priced than it.
You do not need to believe what I said, but you can just dropby Ipoh or PM me for a test out at your side and judge by yourself, is the JumPan sound worth the price it ask for.

by mugenfoo Tue Jan 26, 2010 10:44 pm

haha ... someone is taking another pot-shot at Proton .... be careful ! If not, mr. moderator might end up locking this thread also !
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