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Post by khlim_77 Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:49 am

i going to update my speaker, any advise on this 3 brand ? my target is the bookself speaker with i going to place in on my living room
currently setup is
Marantz 63 KI cdp
Audiolab 8000A
B & W Dm602

pls advise
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Post by zeebee Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:00 am

Khlim,

The KLAV is a good place to start to have a good experience from the brands you mention and from others too. Very Happy A good opp to drive / get a bus ticket here from JB. Very Happy and I believe like many fellow forumers here, it is one of THE event we're looking forward to cheers cheers


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Post by khlim_77 Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:15 am

when will the date start ?
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Post by zeebee Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:21 am

Started oledi Very Happy today until Sunday night...
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Post by elhefe Mon Jul 26, 2010 6:06 pm

khlim_77 wrote:i going to update my speaker, any advise on this 3 brand ? my target is the bookself speaker with i going to place in on my living room
currently setup is
Marantz 63 KI cdp
Audiolab 8000A
B & W Dm602

pls advise

khlim,

Any luck in choosing the speakers?

I have both mission and epos. No experience with dali.

For my main set up with MF amps and CDP, I use the Epos M12.2i.
For second set up, Marantz amp and CDP, I use Mission M31i.
And for AV set up, Yamaha processor, I use Mission M34i.

In summary, Mission provide plenty of bass. If you want your music strong and punchy, go for Mission. Your Audiolab should be able to provide plenty power.

Epos is more laid back and provides detail and clarity.

By the way, whats wrong with your B&W?
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Post by khlim_77 Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:25 pm

elhefe wrote:
khlim_77 wrote:i going to update my speaker, any advise on this 3 brand ? my target is the bookself speaker with i going to place in on my living room
currently setup is
Marantz 63 KI cdp
Audiolab 8000A
B & W Dm602

pls advise

khlim,

Any luck in choosing the speakers?

I have both mission and epos. No experience with dali.

For my main set up with MF amps and CDP, I use the Epos M12.2i.
For second set up, Marantz amp and CDP, I use Mission M31i.
And for AV set up, Yamaha processor, I use Mission M34i.

In summary, Mission provide plenty of bass. If you want your music strong and punchy, go for Mission. Your Audiolab should be able to provide plenty power.

Epos is more laid back and provides detail and clarity.

By the way, whats wrong with your B&W?


there is nothing wrong on my B&W, just wish to upgrade on it coz
move it from bedroom to living room
any model to introduce on Mission ?
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Post by wataru Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:25 pm

BW602 = harsh
Audiolab = thin and clinical

put both together you know the result..
try some Vienna acoustics if you have chance

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Post by drife Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:51 pm

BW602 = needs some juice.
Audiolab = needs some tube warmth maybe?

when my Custom 6c33 amp is ready you guys can lug the BW over to my place for some torque whacking and 3d staging... hopefully Epos, Mission or Dali speakers? Icon_biggrin

BAT guys are invited too...


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Post by khlim_77 Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:15 am

so shld i add more juice on my sepaker first or shld i add pre / power amp to my audiolab ?
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Post by elhefe Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:35 am

khlim_77 wrote:so shld i add more juice on my sepaker first or shld i add pre / power amp to my audiolab ?

now we are talking khlim. Pre power combo to biamp your speakers will definitely improve the sound. I have been biamping my mission and epos with MF pre and power. Previously, I only biwired the speakers but after adding the power amp, the sound quality improved significantly. More control on bass, clarity and detail were improved as well.
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Post by khlim_77 Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:56 pm

HI elhefe
thank's for your help 1st , so any particular pre amp or power amp that work perfectly with audiolab ?
aft adding the amp it shld able to drive on the floorstand spekaer with no problem right
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Post by drife Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:48 pm

i'm with elhefe. but results may vary. as always, subjective, too many factors involved and no absolute.

from my limited experience i only had my 1st listen to a Class A 50wpc integrated MF last month and ... love at first listen! maybe it just matches my setup...

grunt, smooth, room filling, good headroom, free flowing, grunt, smooth, i'm gonna repeat, grunt, smooth, audiolab can't keep up.... ooops!

speculation: an MF power amp might just put an evil smile on your face Epos, Mission or Dali speakers? Icon_biggrin

eh.. apesal jd cerite amp pulak?


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Post by elhefe Fri Jul 30, 2010 7:01 pm

Waaaah khlim u want a 'perfect' match ka? Please be aware, if u get a perfect match, then u have no more room fof upgrade. Hehehehe. 8000M power amp should be a good match.
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Post by adrian4454 Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:00 pm

Hi KHLim,
It's all go down to the mix and match things. I owned Dali Royal Minuet 2 before, and now a Epos M12i.

Both can sound fast and hard hitting; totally depends how you mix and match it with cable and amp. Epos M12i can be totally lack of bass if you are not careful enough on the cable selection and speaker placement. But has very good open vocal.. has more body and definition over my Dali. But Dali has slightly bigger soundstage, better dynamic and better bass volume..haha shame to say that 4 inch outperform 6.5 inch. But if you know how to do the necessary tweak/tuning, it should have more bass from Epos.

From the current price offering, the Epos M12i is certainly a more worthy deal over the award winning B&W 685.

My Dali was an old version, can't speak much for the current version.

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Post by kancan Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:23 pm

I will go for Epos, but old version Epos like es11 or es14...nothing can compare how analog sound with this legend speaker.
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Post by shukor Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:32 pm

agree with you bro kancan...old epos is the best! both models are legend..

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Post by Amir Tue Aug 03, 2010 4:31 pm

Are you now using the Epos speaker Shukor? Long time no see ... Epos, Mission or Dali speakers? Icon_biggrin

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Post by shukor Wed Aug 04, 2010 1:49 pm

Epos sudah letgo la bro Amir...been using it for years, now looking for other brand speakers but still old model especially the one made in 90s. The new model always sound metalic n digital to my ears!

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Post by Amir Wed Aug 04, 2010 7:07 pm

Itu macam ka? Nampak gayanya barang lama lebih baik dari barang baru.

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Post by azri Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:02 am

fulamak bro shukor, welkam to hifi4sale!!
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Post by khlim_77 Mon Aug 09, 2010 6:14 pm

hv your all hear abt Cayin tube amp, coz my fren wish to let go a power amp Cayi A-88T, any comment onm that ?
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