Power cord recommendations: RM150 - RM300

bimmerman wrote:Some say Solehah is actually a woman.

This sentence makes me think of Jeremy Clarkson and The Stig in Top Gear show.

You mean the one where Jeremy says the stig may not be human? doncha just love that dry english humour?

Yes.. the way they put it is funny.

but so far Jeremy did not mention the number of power cords in The Stig's collection.

no he did not but in one episode he did say the Stig's brain was actually hardwired to the car and the steering wheel and pedals were only for show. wired with belden cable no less.

but of course we know now that jeremy was only fibbing because the Stig is none other than mikey schumaker himself. a mera mortal with decent driving skills.

.. which turned out to be a hoax coz Schumey turned out to be bt NOT the Stig after all... by the latest info. ;P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stig

I still believe that many different people acted as The Stig.

and then there is the black stig...

White Stiggy's helmet is modeled based on Britney Spears' head.

Is it better to use a power cord of the same brand as our interconnects and speaker cables?

No need lah. In fact, just use the power cord that is the thickest meanest baddest-ass MoFo looking one and sure will be good one. LoL.

Huh? You mean like a anaconda?

You have to try the Aural Symphonics power cord, clearly the best power cord Ive ever heard. Does not seem to emphasis any part of the frequency spectrum, its just more open fuller, and dynamic. I used to sell them years ago, and when I used to loan them out, not only were people blown away with what they heard, I never had one comeback after I loaned it out. Truly amazing power cable.

Kevin

now got all these new fancypants Shunyata Reseach AC cords.

A few runs / lengths of these cables can buy an actual CAR.

Hey Mugen,

You can get the Shunyata Diamondback Platinum at 50% discount now. It's 50% discount in the USA, 50% in Singapore but i'm not sure if our local distributor is participating or not. Would you know?

The Diamondback has a good reputation and is absolutely budget friendly. And at 50% off even moreso!!!

that goes to show what killer margins they make on these "audiopile" cables. Ouch !!

Wanna ask a question about these power cords, many of which come with US 3-pin plugs on one end. I understand that for US plug, the live and neutral wiring connection is swapped compared to 3-pin UK plug.

So if I use a US plug power cord and insert into a adapter then only plug into the UK wall socket, the live and neutral would be other way around. Does this pose any problem?

I use an adapter to convert the US plug to UK type.
But then I have some worries in the loss of quality by using the adapter.
I did not pay much attention on the reversed Live and Neutral though as I have decided to change the US plug.

car o scope wrote:I use an adapter to convert the US plug to UK type.
But then I have some worries in the loss of quality by using the adapter.
I did not pay much attention on the reversed Live and Neutral though as I have decided to change the US plug.

Yeah, I'm also not keen on adapter if I can help it.

You mean you changed the US plug to UK plug?

jchong wrote:

Yeah, I'm also not keen on adapter if I can help it.

You mean you changed the US plug to UK plug?

Keyword : "I have decided"
So, nope. Not yet change. hahahaha...
But already purchased the MK plugs.

Hey guys,
that right us plugs r live n neutral reversed. U cant just plug an adaptor on it, or else your live n neutral will be reversed. U can either change the plug top to us type or change the us plug to 13a plug.

After tring out so many us plugs, now I use only 13a MK plugs( the 1 breakable ones about rm10) .

For cable, only use the one that cost me rm4.50 per ft. Best value for many. For who interest pm me.

If anyone can honestly use RM4.50/ft power cables and make such recommendations, it is only due to the following situations:

1) Has a serious hearing impairment and is thus unable to hear the differences in Power Cables.

2) His system is of such coarse resolution such that power cords of any variety doesn't do jack to the sound.

3) Has not been exposed to the true sonic benefits of using truly purpose-built dedicated power cords, therefore the RM4.50/ft cord has got to be his absolute best reference point to date.

4) Any or all of the above combinations.

mugenfoo wrote:If anyone can honestly use RM4.50/ft power cables and make such recommendations, it is only due to the following situations:

1) Has a serious hearing impairment and is thus unable to hear the differences in Power Cables.

2) His system is of such coarse resolution such that power cords of any variety doesn't do jack to the sound.

3) Has not been exposed to the true sonic benefits of using truly purpose-built dedicated power cord, therefore the RM4.50/ft cord has got to be his absolute best reference point to date.

4) Any or all of the above combinations.

hey mugenfoo,

Do u know the true lenght of each of your power cord???
How will it sound if it's 2" longer or 2" shorter????
Have u cut it b4???? If no pls keep quiet n just stick back to your krell!! Krell!!! Type of thinking.

Do you know how to tune your powercord???
I guest u don't . So don't act as sifu here, u just buy things n listern, n then sell if not suitable. That's not the way, do u know that u can tune the speed of your by using the same powercord?!?!

R u willing to cut your rm2000 powercord????
The power cable I'm using r made in USA . Rm 4.50 can get powercord made in USA with good quality copper, what more u want???

U do know something, but u don't know everything so pls keep your mouth shut.... If u don't understand, ask question... That's the way of learning, don't your teacher tought u that?????

Ooohhh... looks like someone got his panties in a bunch again it seems...

And this is coming from the same who says the following:

1. Hi power = hi distortion

noodle88 wrote:
only a good hi sensitive speaker match with a single ended amp can
produce something miricle that u all cannot experance in hi power n hi
distortion system

2. If 8 Watts of power is not enough, try 3.5Watts instead.

noodle88 wrote:
However, I disagree with our friend that 8w ( should be a 300b amp )
can drive a pair of klipsch Conner horn to it's max. I would say our
friend use a wrong amp. He should have use a hi quality 3.5w 2a3 amp to
drive the Conner horn, then only the bass will go much lower n deeper.
The piano note also can be very accurate like no other system.

3. Reading Japanese & Chinese hifi mags is the only way to "learn" and "know" about hifi.

noodle88 wrote:
Good morning, guru foo n guru wong.
Do u all read up any books on speaker building before u all make command?
I think both of u don't know Chinese or Japanese . Have yet look at the
Hifi biggest markets, japan, hong kong n china. Go to the net a do a
research, see what do those hi end Hifi kaki play with. Ask them, do
they know what tannoy westminster is all about. Do u know that, most
15" hi efficency speaker in the world have been bought over by them. R
they nuts???

4. Use a RM4.50/ft powercord, PM him for more details!

noodle88 wrote:
For cable, only use the one that cost me rm4.50 per ft. Best value for many. For who interest pm me.

5. I can't "tune" a powercord anymore than that can "tune" his CJ Premier-11a.

noodle88 wrote:
Do you know how to tune your powercord???
I guest u don't . So don't
act as sifu here, u just buy things n listern, n then sell if not
suitable. That's not the way, do u know that u can tune the speed of
your by using the same powercord?!?!

... ok i may be wrong on this one .... noodle88, here's your golden chance to show your knowledge! Can you quote the formula to calculate the speed of the wavefront propagation of an electrical signal in a metallic conductor? (BTW, just in case you are unsure of what "metallic conductor" means, it refers to the cable in question)...


... anything else i missed out above?


Looks like my replies are really tuning the "speed" of Noodle88's temper here!
What can I say... "MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" ? !!!



I just can't stop laughing at your "highly intelligent" posts. Keep up the good work !!!

Yup... noodle88, pls don't stop now .... keep it coming.



Sure i like Krells, but I also like McIntosh, Jeff Rowland, Mark Levinson, Gryphon, Audio Research, Nagra, Copland, Cyrus, Exposure, the occasional Naim, mebbe an Audiolab or two, plus a few Sonic Frontiers and Jadis to go. Oh, not forgetting Conrad-Johnson as well.

Hey, u forget to answer my qusetion guru foo???

noodle88 wrote:Hey, u forget to answer my qusetion guru foo???

Which one? Most (actually all) of them seem like stupid questions, so can stupid answers do for you ?

noodle88 wrote:
U do know something, but u don't know everything so pls keep your mouth
shut.... If u don't understand, ask question... That's the way of
learning, don't your teacher tought u that?????

Oh, and by your mutilation of the English language , it seems like you didn't have too many good teachers in your schooling days. Pity pity. Awwww... don't feel bad now, its ok.... Just remember to "ask question" ya?

I asume that u don't cut b4 n don't know the lenght of a powercord make it sound differently. So, I will not border what u post because u r just the noise here!!

noodle88 wrote:I asume that u don't cut b4 n don't know the lenght of a powercord make it sound differently. So, I will not border what u post because u r just the noise here!!

...and you're the CLOWN here with your silly-ass comments ... But pls don't stop... it's EXTREMELY ENTERTAINING!!

Keep it coming keep it coming!

Noodle88's posting/comments for all to behold!
Hi power/distortion , wattage, 15" cones, and now ... the best so far, RM4.50/ft power cords for his "ultra high end & efficient"(that makes all other systems sound like mini compo) system!

noodle88 wrote:
if 1 day u get hold of a 15" full horn loaded u will know what u r listern to r just minicompo to us. So sorry to say that.

Anyone else agrees with that statement above?? Or is that just the resident court-jester with his self-depreciating remarks?

Give it a rest mugenfoo. It's no longer funny or entertaining.

jazzy939 wrote:Give it a rest mugenfoo. It's no longer funny or entertaining.

OK.

Spoiler:

Go figure...

jchong wrote:Wanna ask a question about these power cords, many of which come with US 3-pin plugs on one end. I understand that for US plug, the live and neutral wiring connection is swapped compared to 3-pin UK plug.

So if I use a US plug power cord and insert into a adapter then only plug into the UK wall socket, the live and neutral would be other way around. Does this pose any problem?

Jcong,

Some say it's ok to reverse the live and neutral, afterall it's alternating current right? I don't know, i'm not an electronic engineer but what I can tell you is I've tested the abovementioned reversed live/neutral situations and it makes a big difference. I can hear it.

I have a subwoofer which came with a 2 pin US plug so I can easily reverse the live/neutral terminals just by plugging in for testing and when the Live/neutral terminals are reversed, I have to crank up the bass attenuator all the way and still not get much bass. I thought I bought a dud Sub. But when I reverse the live/neutral 2 pin to the correct position, I only need to crank it up to the 9 o'clock position to fill the room with bass. I've since changed to a US Nema power cord for the subwoofer.

I'm using this for my subwoofer. Try it if you want, it's good value for money: http://cgi.ebay.com/CRYO-SoniKLEER-AUDIO-AMP-PREAMP-CD-8-POWER-CABLE-TUBE_W0QQitemZ370315831648QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item56388b2960

bimmerman wrote:

jchong wrote:Wanna ask a question about these power cords, many of which come with US 3-pin plugs on one end. I understand that for US plug, the live and neutral wiring connection is swapped compared to 3-pin UK plug.

So if I use a US plug power cord and insert into a adapter then only plug into the UK wall socket, the live and neutral would be other way around. Does this pose any problem?

Jcong,

Some say it's ok to reverse the live and neutral, afterall it's alternating current right? I don't know, i'm not an electronic engineer but what I can tell you is I've tested the abovementioned reversed live/neutral situations and it makes a big difference. I can hear it.

OK, take it from an electronics Engineer then. Yes it makes a difference because cables are inherently "directional" and different twist & stranding configurations gives rise to different L & C values.

There you go Jchong, in theory and in practice. So, make sure you get your Live and Neutral poles correct. Thanks Mugen!

Do bear in mind most hifi equipment have fuses or circuit breakers. And this is usually put into the live input - THEIR live input.

Hey guys, other than the live n neutral issue, do u all know weather the mk plug u r using there r many different batchs the older ones sound much better, however the one u buy now sound so so only...
Do u any fuse in your mk plug? If not , u do miss a lot.... This is why I put a side all my us plugs. I only use my isoclean us plug for my tv.....

WongKN wrote:Do bear in mind most hifi equipment have fuses or circuit breakers. And this is usually put into the live input - THEIR live input.

in fact transformers also have their live(240v) n neutral(0) input, if u reversed it, so sorry u will never get the full performance....

yes.

noodle88 wrote:Hey guys, other than the live n neutral issue, do u all know weather the mk plug u r using there r many different batchs the older ones sound much better, however the one u buy now sound so so only...
Do u any fuse in your mk plug? If not , u do miss a lot.... This is why I put a side all my us plugs. I only use my isoclean us plug for my tv.....

Mr Noodles, if you don't mind, please elaborate. You prefer the sound of your MK plug over the US plug? And lose alot with or without fuse? Thanks.

Years ago I heard people saying about the benefits of us plugs, I then change all my plug to us plug. I tried various combinations but couldn't get what I want, the sound just lack of body n weight, even if I'm using 15" Sp.
I try shift back to mk plugs , it's give the body n weight I wanted. With n with fuse also make different. I personally prefer with fuse bcos without fuse, the tone is just not right for me.

U guys have to be very careful with the mk plugs fuse. There r various bussmann 13a fuse in it . The latest bussmann fuse which made in china sound the worst. It's not silver corded. Try get those old bussmann fuse from your old mk plugs , they sound best. Try all of them, different printing have different sound.

U may get the different, if not either your system is too fast or too slow.

Cheers,

What about this bussmann fuse? Looks like silver plated to me...

How about the wall socket? Any recommendation for it?

I just ordered this from UK last week. Not sure what fuse they use inside but all the 3 pins are made from solid silver. It should be arriving in about 10 days time. What do you think? They also have Rhodium coated silver and double coated Rhodium on silver but expensive!

7810sam wrote:How about the wall socket? Any recommendation for it?

I like this Isoclean Power wall socket for its look!

jazzy939 wrote:What about this bussmann fuse? Looks like silver plated to me...

that's right, it's silver plated. Jazzy could u turn around the bussmann fuse so that I can have a look on it...

This one u get it for rm10? Can buy....

bimmerman wrote:I just ordered this from UK last week. Not sure what fuse they use inside but all the 3 pins are made from solid silver. It should be arriving in about 10 days time. What do you think? They also have Rhodium coated silver and double coated Rhodium on silver but expensive!

look like the same old bussmann fuse they r using. I do prefer the mk plug because it's screw type of cable holder. The new type of hospital grade plug is not with screw type of holder. From my experance the screw type sound much better.

Pls let me know how much this solid silver post plug better than the mk. Solid silver will give u lots of speed......

Start using some REAL plugs.








Oh, and remember to get your regular electrician to re-wire some thick gauge cables (like the ones used for big HP airconds and mega mondo water heaters) from the house DB to the socket area near your beloved Hifi System as well.


Of course, those using RM4.50/ft chicken noodle AC cords need not bother.

tycham wrote:

7810sam wrote:How about the wall socket? Any recommendation for it?

I like this Isoclean Power wall socket for its look!

this wall socket if I'm not wrong, it's a clipsil socket. Isoclean get it gold plated.... This may be good for tv n projector. For audio, I do prefer the mk wall socket without switch. Pls don't ever get those socket with light switch, they r noisy....

noodle88 wrote:

this wall socket if I'm not wrong, it's a clipsil socket. Isoclean get it gold plated.... This may be good for tv n projector. For audio, I do prefer the mk wall socket without switch. Pls don't ever get those socket with light switch, they r noisy....

It's " Clipsal " you moron. Not " Clipsil ".

http://www.clipsal.com.au/

Founded in Australia, they are now part of the Schneider Electric Group today.

http://www.schneider-electric.com

Am using this for my Siltech SPX-20 power cable's power plug. Russ Andrews aka made by Clipsal/Schneider Electric


IEC plug is Furutech FI-28R. The stock Wattgate is crap resulting in too loose connection with my Saturn's male IEC port.

mugenfoo wrote:

It's " Clipsal " you moron. Not " Clipsil ".

But this is the way the Chinese and Japs pronounce Clipsal!

Wait till you hear them say "Fax Machine"!

LOL... I worked in a Japanese MNC before. The new GM with poor command of Engrund asked the sec, "Wong chan, half you alreadi fark?" The sec nearly fell off her seat upon hearing that.

btw, tempted to change my Kimber US plug to UK plug. It is being attached to a UK adaptor to be plugged to Tacima.