Re: Turntable Options - looking for an antidote

by **WongKN** Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:39 pm

brabusm,

Did you go audition the Studio ?

by brabusm Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:10 am

WongKN wrote:brabusm,

Did you go audition the Studio ?

Not yet as was busy with Raya today and someone decided to plonk a Meishu in my house Smile

Will keep you posted.

by **elhefe** Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:43 pm

Spent a couple of hrs in amcorp mall this morning. LP galore it was.

Poorer by few hundred RM. Got a double disc 45 rpm Metallica Master of Puppets and a local band Black Dog Bone.

Now, if only I have a TT at home. Decision, decision.

by **WongKN** Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:34 pm

Well, hey, the Goldmund Studio is still available. So...

Stop wasting time lar, just get the Goldmund Studio !!!!! Laughing

by brabusm Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:36 pm

WongKN wrote:Well, hey, the Goldmund Studio is still available. So...

Stop wasting time lar, just get the Goldmund Studio !!!!!

Also remember to check out the Oracle Delphi V with SME 245 arm at Audio Image.

Am giving the Goldmund a miss as I was hoping that it came with the T3F Belt-driven automatic radial tonearm

by JediSavant Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:49 pm

A very good day for LPs today... Crunching out LedZep IV right now, excellent condition....

by brabusm Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:51 pm

JediSavant wrote:A very good day for LPs today... Crunching out LedZep IV right now, excellent condition....

From Amcorp?

by JediSavant Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:17 pm

Ya.... LowerGround... Two vendors had it... The other copy was hangus man...

Also found Blind Faith.... Gonna do LP/CD drive off later....

by **elhefe** Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:24 pm

oh yes. there was so many classics today. Never thought people would carry those.

Besides Led Zep, there was Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Loudness, Queen.... man I really need to get a TT soon. If not all these LPs will go off soon.

Thanks Jedi for introducing to one of the vendors...

by JediSavant Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:27 pm

All good Chief!

By the way, Appetite was there, somehow you all missed it. Reserved for you if you want it.

'Scuse me now while I spin up some Little Feat.... Or Sade....

by **elhefe** Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:29 pm

JediSavant wrote:All good Chief!

By the way, Appetite was there, somehow you all missed it. Reserved for you if you want it.

'Scuse me now while I spin up some Little Feat.... Or Sade....

Hahahahha, he mentioned it to you is it? I might go again then next Sunday.

by brabusm Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:51 pm

elhefe wrote:oh yes. there was so many classics today. Never thought people would carry those.

Besides Led Zep, there was Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Loudness, Queen.... man I really need to get a TT soon. If not all these LPs will go off soon.

Thanks Jedi for introducing to one of the vendors...

How much are they nowadays?

by **elhefe** Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:58 pm

Brabusm,

In the hundreds. Range fron RM 130 to RM 220.

by mugenfoo Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:00 pm

elhefe wrote:oh yes. there was so many classics today. Never thought people would carry those.

Besides Led Zep, there was Iron Maiden, Black Sabbath, Loudness, Queen.... man I really need to get a TT soon. If not all these LPs will go off soon.

Thanks Jedi for introducing to one of the vendors...

Crap ... one more vinyl kaki to have to fight for these albums now..

Elhefe, on 2nd thoughts, vinyl sucks ... lousy quality. CD better!
Play CD ya.... !

LOL

by JediSavant Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:03 pm

Could be had for less, but a bit harder work with less knowledgable vendors and effort in terms of checking and evaluating...

by brabusm Sun Sep 11, 2011 8:10 pm

Be careful with the antistatic gun as you may end up getting a brighter sound and much less crucial low mids.

by car o scope Sun Sep 11, 2011 9:47 pm

mugenfoo wrote:

Crap ... one more vinyl kaki to have to fight for these albums now..

Elhefe, on 2nd thoughts, vinyl sucks ... lousy quality. CD better!
Play CD ya.... !

LOL

On another thought, selling LP as part time job is not bad eh? lol!

by **WongKN** Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:49 pm

Elhefe,

There is one EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RULE in LP buying. If you see something you like, BUY IT. IMMEDIATELY. You hesitate for one second and it can be gone. I learnt this the hard way in my younger days. Was at a record fair in the U.S. Got a stack of RCA Living Stereos. Just hesitated for a few seconds. Some dude said to me "excuse me, can I get in there for a sec". Next thing I know, he offered to buy the ENTIRE STACK. Just like that, a split second, and several tens of RCA Living Stereo LPs were gone.

So, this is not a joke. BUY BUY BUY !! It may not be there the next time you go !! Serious !!

Now, the same applies to the TT. Stop wasting time and just go get the Goldmund Studio la !! Compared to the RM23k M1, the Studio is dirt cheap !

by JediSavant Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:43 am

While pondering my own antidote this morning, I was wondering if there are other VPI users here other than Bassraptor?

by Wan Azami Hamzah Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:38 am

Heard a VPI playing once, an Aries if I remember correctly, fitted with a Rega arm. Good tt.
Anyone still using these turntables out there?:
Sansui SR 222
Acoustic Research
Thorens TD 160s
Ariston

Cheers

by joeling Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:04 pm

I have confession to make : I made the crossing as of yesterday !

by JediSavant Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:05 pm

Crossing to the Dark Side??

by joeling Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:40 pm

JediSavant wrote:Crossing to the Dark Side??

Yes, I have done the deed Twisted Evil

by **WongKN** Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:07 pm

Ah.... welcome to the land of the dinosaurs.... I hope/assume you have a good selection of LPs to start out with ?

by Wan Azami Hamzah Mon Sep 12, 2011 2:36 pm

aahh.......... someone just crossed the bridge of valley of death. Wlcome to the land of salvation bro. Land of pure analogue truth. May the HF4S wax angels guide you to the right path. Amen.

by cmboy Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:01 pm

Hi Joeling, kindly elaborate what you've acquired this time round.

by mugenfoo Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:13 pm

Wan Azami Hamzah wrote:aahh.......... someone just crossed the bridge of valley of death. Wlcome to the land of salvation bro. Land of pure analogue truth. May the HF4S wax angels guide you to the right path. Amen.

Poison Angels that is .... hahahaha.

Next thing would be to acquire the tools of the trade to ensure that the analog always outperform any digital equivalent...

1. Get a good alignment gauge.

2. Get a good tracking force gauge. Shure SFG-2 is decent, but for the anally accuracy-freaks, there are those digital gauges that can also double up as a cocaine/heroine powder weighing machine.

3. Test record. Every vinyl afficionado is sure to have at least one such record. The HFNRR (hifi news & record review) test record is a popular one. Another populer one is "the ultimate analog test LP" from analogue productions. These helps you to fine-tune other parameters like channel balance (azimuth), VTA angle, and anti-skate compensation adjustments.

To borrow a phrase from a well known brand's cartridge installation manual, this section reads:

Once again:
Keep cool and concentrated when adjusting the cartridge. As a music lover you should have all adjustment accessories even if you think they are expensive or difficult to use. Damaged music reproduction or cartridge fault will never reproduce the one we love: music.

http://www.clearaudio.de/download/tonabnehmer/mc_v2_de_en.pdf

by **WongKN** Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:27 pm

Today a glorious day as we very happily welcome yet another brother to the land of the lost and the dinosaurs. Welcome JoeLing and get ready for your extended stay in Shangri-La of pure music enjoyment. Now, will we be seeing some nice photos of your latest acquisition ?

by Wan Azami Hamzah Mon Sep 12, 2011 3:39 pm

Alas, the Guardian of the Land of Truth has spoken. Saint MF and his sacred book of wax prophecies. Follow that path son and he will guide you with utter wisdom.

by brabusm Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:41 pm

joeling wrote:
JediSavant wrote:Crossing to the Dark Side??

Yes, I have done the deed

Fantastic! What did you buy?

by mugenfoo Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:49 pm

Wan Azami Hamzah wrote:Alas, the Guardian of the Land of Truth has spoken. Saint MF and his sacred book of wax prophecies. Follow that path son and he will guide you with utter wisdom.

utter WAX wisdom that is .... melts just the same in the sun just like everything else.

by **bassraptor** Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:52 pm

What to buy ... just wondering .... ?

by **WongKN** Mon Sep 12, 2011 8:55 pm

I believe Joe mentioned the tt already, somewhere in this thread. I assume he heard it and bought it. My kinda guy, decisive...

Elhefe, you and the Goldmund Studio, how ? Laughing

SJ, for you, nothing less than Artemis Lab, Clearaudio Statement, Kuzma, and the likes. Very Happy

by **elhefe** Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:15 pm

I only heard Clearaudio only so far. How lah want to decide? Just got the contact for audio image. Have to set something up.

by **WongKN** Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:22 pm

The place is quite near your house. The Studio with VPI JPW 10inch arm was at the audition room on saturday. Should still be there.

by Wan Azami Hamzah Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:10 pm

bassraptor wrote:What to buy ... just wondering .... ?

You mean what LP to buy BR? If haven't already, Dire Straits Private Investigation, Supertramp Breakfast in America, Quincy Jones The Dude. Great music, great sonics.

by **bassraptor** Mon Sep 12, 2011 10:24 pm

Dire Straits - Dire Straits, that's my fave album, just can't get that much into the others ...

No, the rumination wasn't over LP. Just wondering what hardware to buy next.... Twisted Evil

by **WongKN** Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:08 am

SJ,

Simple, get something with USB. Must be Async-USB. It is the next best thing to sliced bread. Twisted Evil

Oh sorry, I forgot to talk about the music. For the music, you should get Papa Americano. Don't worry if you don't like it initially. Just give in to the trance. It will slowly but surely suck you in. I can hear it repeating again in my head now. And it is all your fault ! Laughing

by **WongKN** Tue Sep 13, 2011 12:33 am

bassraptor wrote:Dire Straits - Dire Straits, that's my fave album, just can't get that much into the others ...

But seriously, I'd always felt 'Makin Movies' is a better album. The performance is more matured, with better guitar playing. Tunnel of Love is THE classic Dire Straits song. I can never get enough of the guitar solo towards the end of the song.

by JediSavant Tue Sep 13, 2011 1:02 am

i'm gonna set-up another VPI Classic audition... if anyone wants to join me, please let me know... via PM or on this thread or whatever...

i'm gonna ask Centre Circle to set up a system whereby if solid state, the amp component ain't no more than 60w and with the cheapest 90db speakers they have...

...and i'm gonna bring along some records... Pink Floyd, Led Zep, Emmy Lou Harris, Neil Young, Coltrane and Miles Davis...

by **elhefe** Tue Sep 13, 2011 4:58 pm

WongKN wrote:Elhefe,

There is one EXTREMELY IMPORTANT RULE in LP buying. If you see something you like, BUY IT. IMMEDIATELY. You hesitate for one second and it can be gone. I learnt this the hard way in my younger days. Was at a record fair in the U.S. Got a stack of RCA Living Stereos. Just hesitated for a few seconds. Some dude said to me "excuse me, can I get in there for a sec". Next thing I know, he offered to buy the ENTIRE STACK. Just like that, a split second, and several tens of RCA Living Stereo LPs were gone.

So, this is not a joke. BUY BUY BUY !! It may not be there the next time you go !! Serious !!

Now, the same applies to the TT. Stop wasting time and just go get the Goldmund Studio la !! Compared to the RM23k M1, the Studio is dirt cheap !

Die die die...followed your advice today. Out of nowhere, another Metallica 45 RPM double disc special edition album was available at Rock Corner KLCC.... and cheaper than 2nd hand price !!!!

How lah? I learnt today that LP price is not standardised. Mcm suka hati saja the shops/owner put the price.

by cmboy Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:36 pm

elhefe wrote:How lah? I learnt today that LP price is not standardised. Mcm suka hati saja the shops/owner put the price.

Of course! You all are sheep to the slaughter! Laughing

Prices of highly desired artists on LP's can be rediculous and silly now. Of course there's bargains to be found and entirely depending on what you may like to acquire. Like some nice specimens of the fairer sex, you want, many others oso want lah! The more people into this, the more people will fight to get what they want. The era of very cheap LP's era is long over.

by **elhefe** Tue Sep 13, 2011 5:53 pm

Hmmmmm... have to report to Persatuan Pengguna hehehhe.

The best part of today's purchase was:

Cashier: Sir, this is a record you know. You need record player

elhefe: Yes, I know. It sounds better

Cashier: But its expensive sir

elhefe: Nevermind lah. Just want to keep in my cupboard

Long pause for payment

Cashier: Thank you sir

elhefe: Your welcome. By the way, actually this price is considered cheap.

by **WongKN** Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:02 pm

You are definitely a nasty barger lar. Your post made my day, damn funny ! lol!

by joeling Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:07 pm

Sorry for the late reply :

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It's a VPI.

Regards,
Joe Ling

by **elhefe** Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:35 pm

WongKN wrote:You are definitely a nasty barger lar. Your post made my day, damn funny !

I am the King's Royal Jester hahahaha.

by **elhefe** Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:37 pm

joeling wrote:Sorry for the late reply :

It's a VPI.

Regards,
Joe Ling

You are killing me..........Making my a*s itchy to get me TT ASAP. bounce

NICE !!!! PERIOD !!!

by Wan Azami Hamzah Tue Sep 13, 2011 7:39 pm

Nice tt Joe, fantastic looks and build I must say. A work of engineering art. Bet it sounds great! Makes a nice piece of living room decor too when unplayed, Congrats.

by brabusm Tue Sep 13, 2011 11:55 pm

wow

joeling wrote:Sorry for the late reply :

It's a VPI.

Regards,
Joe Ling

by JediSavant Wed Sep 14, 2011 12:01 am

Very nice TT Mr Joe!!

Elhefe... At Rock Corner you can usually get a discount on vinyl... 10-15% usually...

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